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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.05 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tokyo Rose
Originally by: Valentina Valentia not sure what World of Darkness is...
World of darkness is ccp's upcoming emo vampire mmo that is literally sucking the life out of eve development resources.
This is a stated fact from ccp itself in its 18 month initiative revelation that stated incarna was taking up too many eve resources and eves core gameplay development had to take a back seat to avatar development.
So wonder why all of a sudden eve development focused on an avatar technology that has absolutely nothing to do with any gameplay mechanic in the game but is 100% transferable to its new mmo?
Suckers..
Actually, I'm pretty sure Dust 514 is consuming a majority of CCP's resources. World of Darkness is still in pre-production, as far as I know.
God forbid that a game company works on other projects.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.05 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tokyo Rose
Originally by: Meryl SinGarda Yeah, I mean, look at what happened to ID when they went and made Quake instead of the next Doom >:(
So what you are saying is that you are cool with the fact eve has been put on the back burner indefinitely so ccp can make other projects that have little or nothing to do with eve?
And dust has little to do with eve past being based in the same universe and an as yet undefined connection to sov that will most likely be as unobtrusive as possible.
Oh boy..
How far the players have fallen.
You do realize how small CCP is compared to some other studios, right? The fact that something has to be on the back burner while they tackle other projects is completely unsurprising.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.05 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tokyo Rose So you are totally cool that ccp decided that even though being a small company with limited resources they dumped eve development for other projects?
Well please forgive me if I don't agree.
I want to play a fully developed eve and not a vampire game or yet another console shooter in a market saturated with console shooters.
EVE development hasn't been dumped. As limited as resources may be, CCP still has a team working on EVE. It's a sign that CCP is in no position to abandon their main project anytime soon. Once Dust 514 has been rolled out, I'm sure more resources will be re-allocated to EVE's development.
You people act as if you're entitled to everything you ask for, and yet the only thing CCP asks from its players is a subscription fee, which can be circumvented completely if the player desires. Despite whatever misgivings you may have about EVE's current state, it's still the best persistent MMO available. If you don't like it, the door is always open for you to leave. No one cares.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.05 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tokyo Rose Name one feature that has been finished to completion. Just one! The only current active development in eve is the avatar technology that is just a front for world of darkness develpoment. Avatar technology has no gameplay influance in eve and is totally eye candy and optional.
Considering how malleable MMO development is, can you really say that any feature can be complete, no matter how much effort goes into its development? Consider how long EVE has been running. I think it's obvious that its development is a constantly ongoing process. That said, however, I don't think anyone would be playing EVE if it didn't feel whole in some way. I certainly wouldn't be, anyway.
As far as the Incarna features go. Sure, they're fairly useless in their current state, but who's to say that it's always going to be like that? CCP has been wanting these features in EVE for a very long time, so acting as though Incarna is a complete front for World of Darkness is ridiculous. So what if they use Carbon in WoD? Do you hold the same argument for other developers when they use their own technology in other games?
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.05 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 05/09/2011 16:51:27
Originally by: Tokyo Rose Thats a lot of spin you are tossing out there mate. Be careful you don't get dizzy and fall flat on your face.
So instead of useless damage control why don't you answer the question? Name one feature that has ever been introduced that is more than just a bare framework with endless promises of being fleshed out at a future date.
I dare you.
Honestly, I'm not qualified to answer your question, because I haven't been playing EVE long enough to really say. I just started playing this year.
Regardless of whatever unfinished business there is, it's still the best persistent MMO available. You can't deny that.
And... damage control? Not really. That's just how development goes. Something can always be improved in some way.
Originally by: Evil Afoot Useless in what regard?
You said you have them disabled which is "your" choice. You have that choice at present soon you will not.
In what regard? Eh... they've never done anything for me other than create clutter. I just find them annoying, that's all.
I don't think the removal of signatures is such a big deal, to be honest.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.05 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 05/09/2011 16:55:25
Originally by: Tokyo Rose
Originally by: Evil Afoot Useless in what regard?
You said you have them disabled which is "your" choice. You have that choice at present soon you will not.
Don't bother arguing with a ccp alt/blind fanboi. Not unless you like taking a spin on the damage control carousel.
Ah, so now the tears are flowing. You must have a headache from trying to think of a decent argument.
Originally by: Tokyo Rose If yo ujust started playing this year then you can be forgiven. Stick around a bit and you will see that ccp has built a fabulous ivory tower that is very very pretty from the outside and the first few rooms look quite grand. But once you start exploring around you will soon figure out its a mostly empty tower.
Please elaborate on this.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 05/09/2011 17:21:08 Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 05/09/2011 17:20:31
Originally by: Tokyo Rose Every expansion has added new content that has always been the barest of frameworks. now for a new player with only a year into the game the eve universe can seem like and endless bounty of awesomeness. But the thing is that the skill system and the gameplay mechanics force you into a years long advancement into the top content. You have not been playing nearly long enough to reach the dead ends that every single new feature has. So like I said you can be forgiven because you are new and are still skilling up for the most basic of professions. This is not your fault and I can see you having at least another couple of years of fun before you wake up one day to log in and realise that nothing in this game is in a finished state.
This is ccp's great gamble.
That they can continue to keep drawing in new subs to fund the other projects at the expense of eves core gameplay.
You too will become a bitter vet and look back on this thread and hang your head in shame.
Well, is EVE at least fun to you in some way? I mean, there's a reason you still play it, right? I know that, if the game ever stops being fun for me, I'll definitely drop it cold turkey, as there's no point in putting time into something you don't enjoy. There are plenty of other games to play, after all.
If you invest enough emotion into a game to become bitter, I would say that's caring a bit too much. It's just a game.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.05 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Alxea
Originally by: Herr Wilkus I'm just hoping that when these forums are frozen 'forever' - that there are plenty of CCP rage topics on the front page. Whenever anyone accidentally navigates here, they'll get a time capsule snapshot of how CCP screwed it all up and alienated the EVE community.
Great thing about the new forums is that I can block people who make useless topics like this one. I can't wait!!!
Prediction(?): You will end up blocking 90% of the forum users.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.05 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 05/09/2011 18:49:59
Originally by: Cozmik R5 World of Darkness WAS awesome... when Bloodline came out. And then sparkles happened.
Yeah, but let's not confuse Twilight, which is garbage, with World of Darkness, which is awesome. Vampires still can be cool so long as people do cool things with them.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.05 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tokyo Rose Expect the same endless promises with wod as with eve.
As in 'blood dolls are coming in the next patch!'
Then 'well due to issues with profitibility we cannot give you blood dolls because we will lose market share in nearly every moral country in the world! Sorry!'
Seriously if you think ccp is going to magicaly change its tune on development of its new cash cow then I have some ocean front property in new mexico to sell you..
Hey, I never said it was anything to look forward to. I'm just saying that the World of Darkness universe is pretty cool. Who knows about the game. Personally, I don't care about a WoD MMO, but some people do.
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